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	<title>Comments on: Dark Lord &#8211; Morgoth and Satan</title>
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		<title>By: Master Paul Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Paul Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m slightly confused by your statement.  Are you trying to state that the world, as we know it, is nothing, compared with the actuality of it all?  I.E., our sense perception of life is a mere fragment of the realm around us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slightly confused by your statement.  Are you trying to state that the world, as we know it, is nothing, compared with the actuality of it all?  I.E., our sense perception of life is a mere fragment of the realm around us?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, let&#039;s not forget the element that the psyche plays in all of this with it&#039;s ability to cast the forces of nature and life into archetypes.  I think sometimes that Tolkien&#039;s work, our mythologies and religions arise out of our own subjective integration in this universe and the forces which create its fabric.  We are enmeshed in it and our brains interpret things in a way that I believe we have only just begun to discover.  Let&#039;s hope our passions don&#039;t wipe us out before we get the full picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, let&#8217;s not forget the element that the psyche plays in all of this with it&#8217;s ability to cast the forces of nature and life into archetypes.  I think sometimes that Tolkien&#8217;s work, our mythologies and religions arise out of our own subjective integration in this universe and the forces which create its fabric.  We are enmeshed in it and our brains interpret things in a way that I believe we have only just begun to discover.  Let&#8217;s hope our passions don&#8217;t wipe us out before we get the full picture.</p>
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		<title>By: frangelo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the typos.</description>
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		<title>By: frangelo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keppel,

Tolkien did what Christians have been doing since the beginning, namely, subsuming the non-Christian culture and baptizing it, jettisoning what was irredeemable and purging what could be salvaged.  

Tolkien was not happy with the existing English mythology, such as the Arthurian legends:  too fantastic and to explicitly Christian to meet the demands of his demands for mythology, namely, a secondary world worthy of the suspension of disbelief.

I believe we need to avoid thinking that because the literary forms Tolkien chose more often conformed to the Norse tradition than to the Christian one, that the values and metaphors contained there are more pagan than Christian.  This is not the case.

That being said Tolkien considered the Norse tradition to be very poorly understood and maligned by those who completely misrepresented it, such as Adolf Hitler, whom he called a &quot;ruddy little ignoramus.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keppel,</p>
<p>Tolkien did what Christians have been doing since the beginning, namely, subsuming the non-Christian culture and baptizing it, jettisoning what was irredeemable and purging what could be salvaged.  </p>
<p>Tolkien was not happy with the existing English mythology, such as the Arthurian legends:  too fantastic and to explicitly Christian to meet the demands of his demands for mythology, namely, a secondary world worthy of the suspension of disbelief.</p>
<p>I believe we need to avoid thinking that because the literary forms Tolkien chose more often conformed to the Norse tradition than to the Christian one, that the values and metaphors contained there are more pagan than Christian.  This is not the case.</p>
<p>That being said Tolkien considered the Norse tradition to be very poorly understood and maligned by those who completely misrepresented it, such as Adolf Hitler, whom he called a &#8220;ruddy little ignoramus.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Master Paul Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Paul Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well spoken, for any religion that isn&#039;t malicious towards human nature or directly to the soul has a similiar morality.  Since man has the law of God written into his heart via conscience, we all have a similiar understanding of right and wrong.  

Which I find interesting in some pagan societies which were devoid of Christian Thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well spoken, for any religion that isn&#8217;t malicious towards human nature or directly to the soul has a similiar morality.  Since man has the law of God written into his heart via conscience, we all have a similiar understanding of right and wrong.  </p>
<p>Which I find interesting in some pagan societies which were devoid of Christian Thinking.</p>
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